An Interview with Pastor of the Ukrainian Lutheran Church in Oleksandria

 

Pastor Oleksandr Dich:

"The Word of God does not Depend on Who Preaches It".

 


- Pastor, what are the problems you face in your ministry?

- I like that the congregation grow. Church members have a lot of friends. They are invited to our worship services and classes. I am pleased when relatives of the members of the congregation come to hear the Word of God. Then I fulfilled the core of my ministry - the Word is proclaimed. I certainly want everyone to stay in the congregation, but the Word of God "will not return to Me empty". People came to us, they heard the Word, they are not lost for the Lord. He has an intention to send them preachers again and again. The Bible way of the congregation's existence presuposes that there are people who systematically come to the worship services, there are some coming now and then and there are those who come for the first time. I am especially grateful to God for people who used to come to worship services, then quit and now are back to the church.

- Pastor, there's a thought that the Western Ukraine is more religious than Eastern or Southern. You work in central Ukraine. Do you think this viewpoint is supported by facts? How is your ministry going?

- Yes, the attitude of people to religion, to the church differs in regions of Ukraine. Certain things can be easily explained to people residing the western part of the country, especially those issues that have to do with organization of the church activities, rules of behavior during the worship service, etc. However, it does not have any impact on efficacy of the Word of God. When the Word is preached the way Lord wants it, it works equally on people in Galicia, Poltava, and it "never returns empty". During the last decade people in Western Ukraine got used to certain standards of faith. Quite often what is considered there to be standards of faith, were not commanded by God. We don't have such things in central and eastern Ukraine, so in this respect it's easier to work here. It's easier to work with people if they don't know approaches to certain questions that are not Biblical. On the other hand, the Word of God works even if people hear it pronounced with unusual accent or from people with political views that differ from their own. The Word of God is accepted not because it is preached by a political associate, but because it IS the Word of God. The Holy Spirit Himself help to preserve the Word, enables it to work, makes you a believer and your works - actions of the believer. So, the difference is reality, however, it does not make impossible the preaching of the Word of God. I am grateful to those people who accepted me. I only preach them the Word of God and our views may differ in political issues, questions concerning the history of our people as well as every day aspects. The Word of God does not depend on who preaches it.

- How do you view (assess) negative influence of the modern world on youth in a small town like Oleksandria? How can the Word of God be brought closer to children, to young people that are our future? What types of activities for young people do you practice in your congregation?

- The population of Oleksandria is 79,500 people. In 1961 the population used to be 105,000. For comparison, at that time 30,000 people lived in Ternopil. The young people of our town have the same problems as teenagers in big cities, namely drugs, depravity in mass media, games and other things. The avalanche of problems grows so fast that sometimes it is ahead of the church. Taking into account the importance of modern mass media, radio and TV, the Lord wants people to get to know about the Gospel from these sources as well. Sometimes such a messenger of the Gospel is a pastor preaching from the pulpit; sometimes it's a layman talking to his/her neighbour. There are no many children in our congregation. It is due to the age structure of the local population. But it's worthwhile noting that we have not only kids who were brought to the church by their parents, but also parents who were brought to the church by their children. The Word of God comes to children mainly through their parents. The other option of preading the information is from one child to another. Children spread the Good News among their peers telling them about precious God's gifts. Our congregation is young. It's been working for three years. For two years we had only those children who came to the church when the congregation got registered. But during the last 3-4 months the work with kids is getting more active. Members of the congregation communicate with each other on weekdays. Children get together, communicate, sing. They presented their first concert on the Holy Trinity. Children come for Saturday and Sunday Bible classes. Much of their time they devote to the church ethics; they learn how to make embroideries, paint Easter eggs. This isn't a formal work but it is successfully conducted.

- Pastor, a couple of words about your teaching job.

- It was my project on Evangelism. The structure of our congregation is not identical to the one of the society. We lack young people. I have to come up with ways how to bring the Word of God to the young people in Oleksandria. In addition to being a pastor of the ULC I received an education of a biology and chemistry (science) teacher. So, one of the Oleksandria higher educational establishments accredited by the state allowed me, the Lutheran pastor to teach science. It's not much, just 16 hours per year. Now when the work was completed we can say that at least one Ukrainian higher educational institution taught the course of science not according to a narrow Darwinism, but on the contrary, it involved the Biblical truth about creation, the society, and dependence of people on the will of the Almighty God. I have been teaching for two academic years. When you come to students, you try to tell them the Biblical truths and the Gospel, to let them know what Jesus Christ did for people and their salvation and it should be done within the course I was hired to teach. The youth heard me. The majority of them revealed views that are far from atheistic. They tried to think as Christians though they do not constantly study the Holy Scripture. Not all their views correspond to the God's truths. But we communicate and children can hear the Gospel. It didn't have any consequences for our congregation so far but it was an attempt to attract people to the church. I am going to continue this project in other institutions. If people need help, we are eager to help them but at the same time we'll render them the greatest thing - the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

- Pastor, at the worship service in Oleksandria I was impressed with a big number of embroideries. Those were various needle works from gofalons (banners) to a table-cloth on the altar. Tell us about this aspect of life in the congregation.

- Members of the congregation actively work for the church aesthetics. Many women embroider. Natalia Kuznetsova was an organizer and initiator of this work. Needle works of the members of the congregation are very nice. In 2003 we were invited to participate in the exhibition of needle works that was held at the local museum of the natural history. Works by women from our congregation were very popular. There were many people willing to purchase these embroideries. Quite a number of people from our town came to know about our church thanks to this exhibition. The works depicting the figure of Christ drew attention of visitors. Naturally the embroidery is not as informative as a sermon or a Bible class. But the person can see the embroidered image of Christ. Then he/she can ask what He has done for us. We want people to focus on Christ when they hear about Him. We certainly expect people to come and listen to the Word of God, we expect broken hearts. We want people to come to church. But in order to succeed, we have to draw people's attention to Christ again and again. In 2004 the same musuem turned to us with a proposal to organize a similar exhibition. Since new needle works were not ready at that time, we suggested to display our literature. This event was held at Easter. People had a chance to see the Bibles published in various languages by the Lutheran Heritage Foundation. During the period of exhibition we received some requests for the literature. So, we presented people with the books they asked for. Those who visited the museum on Easter days could get acquainted with our literature. We plan to continue such work. It will help the church to conduct the work commanded by Jesus Christ.

- Thank you, pastor, for the interview. May the Lord bless your ministry and the Oleksandria congregation of the ULC.

Vasyl Korshak


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